Sony G90 manual Problem with DVD Digital Artifacts, Targeting 14-Year-Old Boys?

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L E T T E R S

The Problem with DVD:

Digital Artifacts

Editor:

I have subscribed to your revival of

The Perfect Vision, and not being famil-

iar with the original, I can only say you

seem to be off to a strong start. Your

style feels more academically, intellectu-

ally driven than some of your competi-

tion, and I welcome this.

I’d like to address one point that

Mr. Pearson makes in his Viewpoints

editorial. “And we shall push, push, push

for the highest quality images, either

from an ‘enhanced’ DVD...” How hard

are you willing to push? Are you satis-

fied with DVD now?

I find the digital motion artifacts of

DVD too severe for a serious High End

format. DVD’s 10Mbps data rate is just

not enough to carry a component digital

standard definition video signal! With

only few exceptions, every DVD I watch,

on a wide variety of systems, is plagued

by large-area low luminance chroma

macroblocking. Also, pre-compression

noise reduction removes much of the

film grain within the image. Film grain is

an integral part of an image; the type of

film stock and its grain structure are

often aesthetic choices made by direc-

tors of photography. How can reduction

or removal of this element be aestheti-

cally acceptable?

The popular press, and even some

higher end journals, are head over heels

over DVD. I will admit that it offers

some true benefits such as component

color space, progressive output capabil-

ity, anamorphic presentation, and

extended luminance/chroma channel

bandwidth. But the digital artifacts are

bad, they are visible, and they are unac-

ceptable. But I hear no other voices to

the contrary. This saddens me.

If The Perfect Vision is to “push,

push, push,” then I implore your maga-

zine to [convince] manufacturers that

our future digital formats must use

milder data reduction methods. I fear for

the future “enhanced DVD” format. Will

we be saddled with a digital output

channel that will max out at the low 19

Mbps data rate specified by the ATSC for

1080i transmission? Wouldn’t it be better

to output a wideband RGB or Y/R-Y/B-Y

analog signal to feed our monitors?

Within the home, we should shoot

for performance above the ATSC/Grand

Alliance system and stay free of injurious

motion artifacts caused by high data-

reduction schemes. Please use your plat-

form to strive for the finest images we

can get – we are counting on you!

CHRISTOPHER MOORE

MANHATTAN BEACH, CALIFORNIA

Greg Rogers: I applaud your desire for

high-quality video, but I can’t agree with

your sweeping generalization of DVD.

You haven’t provided a single example

of a disc or player for which “digital arti-

facts are bad, they are visible, and they

are unacceptable.” That certainly is not

the case with the vast majority of DVDs

I buy or the players I use today. Early on

there were some quite poor DVDs

rushed to market to make a quick buck

and some DVD players that were ques-

tionable in terms of MPEG artifacts and

D/A converter output stages. Your char-

acterization would have applied to

them. But MPEG encoding on major stu-

dio releases is generally quite good

today and MPEG decoding and signal

processing in players is excellent. That

said, there are still plenty of video quali-

ty problems on DVD, but I think you are

barking up the wrong tree. I would spare

you the usual advice to make certain

your displays are calibrated, but I have

no other explanation for what you see.

I believe if we want real improve-

ments in DVD quality, we must have bet-

ter transfers using high-definition down-

conversion, no edge-enhancement arti-

facts, and use the 16.9 enhanced format

for all widescreen movies. And stop

recycling old transfers done on inferior

telecine equipment or stored on D-2

composite video VTRs.

I’m not sure how much film-grain

you have been able to see through dirty

film transfers and the video noise of pre-

vious formats like laserdisc, and forgive

me, VHS tape. But you are correct that

pre-processing to remove noise is an

important part of the MPEG compres-

sion process. But if that means cleaning

up dirt on film, and using better telecine

equipment with less noise, then I think

it’s a pretty good tradeoff.

When it comes to future high-defin-

ition DVD formats I’m not as worried

about the ATSC bit-rates as I was a year

ago. From what I’ve seen of pre-record-

ed HDTV, multiple-pass MP@HL MPEG

encoding is working well and encoders

will be even better by the time 720p gets

to DVD. The jury is still out on real-time

high-definition MPEG encoding.

Targeting 14-Year-Old

Boys?

Editor:

I’ve just skimmed through Issue 24,

and already TPV is better than just about

anything else out there. A few weeks ago

a friend and I were discussing the lam-

entable state of Home Theater maga-

zine, which apparently has decided that

its target audience is 14-year-old boys.

…I’m now using one of the Panan-

sonic DVD players, which does a pretty

good job. My monitor is the Toshiba 35-

inch direct view, and I heard that the

Sony DVD player looks a little soft when

not in 16.9 enhanced mode (although

that appears not to be a problem with

the S7700). I’d be tempted to spring for a

Theta Voyager if I had 6 grand to spare!

I’ve seen all the films in your “Best

of 1998” list except Central Station,

Gods and Monsters, Elizabeth, and The

Object of My Affection. I’ve been pleas-

antly surprised to see that the library of

DVD films isn’t entirely made up of

blockbusters. I had never seen Picnic at

Hanging Rock before and was knocked

for a loop by it. What an incredible,

haunting film! I’ve also been picking up

a goodly number of laserdiscs at give-

away prices. Speaking of which, is DTS

a consumer failure? I see that Ken

Crane’s is dumping its DTS laserdiscs,

which can’t be a good sign.

RICHARD GALLAGHER

RGALLAGH@IX. NETCOM.COM

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