HP 3586A, C manual Number Ratio Power DB Ratio

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As and example again lets say we have +6 dbm, we divide 6 by 10 to get .6 and using our calculator get the anti log as 3.98 on my HP 25 calculator, which is nearly 4, and multiply it by our reference of one mw and have 4 mw of power equal to +6dbm. If it were –6dbm the ratio would be negative, -.6, and the anti log would be .25, which is .25 mw since PR is in miliwatts.

To get a physical feel for ratio’s in db’s compared to the linear number ratios they represent lets look at the following linear number ratios and their corresponding values in the logarithmic ratio of db’s:

NUMBER RATIO

POWER DB RATIO

0

0db

2

3db

4

6db

6

8db

8

9db

10

10db

100

20db

1000

30db

In this table I rounded off the values to the nearest db. As you can see from this little table the logarithmic db ratio will increase more rapidly than the linear ratio at first then match it at 10 and 10db then increase much more slowly over ten. In the real world the log ratio is the way we experience many physical things like how we sense sound. We sense more in a logarithmic ratio than in the actual linear ratio. In other words a sound power increase of 4 time will sound 6 times louder where a sound power increase of 1000 will only sound 30 times louder, no wonder people go deaf at rock concerts. The db logarithmic system does a better job of showing the importance of measurement levels in the real world and that’s why it’s often used when dealing in levels over a very wide range in electronic measurements. Also notice that 0db is 1, and with positive db values we can’t express numbers below one like fractions. But using negative db’s does this for us, but more on this later.

To help understand what an instrument reading means, I get a feel for the linear magnitude of a decibel ratio the following easy way. For values under 10db we can memorize some key linear values to get a feel for the linear ratio values. For every db value of ten or over first ignore the first LSD, take the remaining significant digits and raise ten to the power of the number of digits, like in our table for 10db and raise ten to the first power which is 10, then for 20db raise 10 to the 2nd power which is 100 or if you had 60db raise 10 to the 6th power you have 1,000,000 or one million. 120db would be ten to the 12th power.

Now there is even an easier way, by adding zeros behind one. Take 30db, write down a 1 and put 3 zeros behind it and you get 1000. Or 120db write 1 and put 12 zeros behind it 1,000,000,000,000, boy that’s sure a big number we can express with a much smaller one.

Next take the first LSD digit and multiply the MSD’s value by its linear value to get the total ratio number. Take 23db, we first compute 100 for the MSD value, then using our table we find the LSD value for 3db is 2 and then multiply 2 X 100 to get 200. Or for 39db, take 1000 for the MSD value multiply it by the LSD of 9db, which is 8, to get the total take 1000 X 8 or 8000. As you can see by this simple calculation and knowing many of the db values between 0 and 10, you can make a quick estimate of the linear number ratio of a number in db’s.

You can also compute –db ratios in a similar manner by remember they express linear ratios less than 1. In other words –3db is ½ or .5, -10db is .1, and –30db is .001. The rule for estimating – db’s is to take the MSD’s as one less than the number of zeros to the right of the decimal point. –30db would be .001, two zeros, and -60db would be .000001, five zeros. For –db’s that the LSD value is not zero, just divide the linear value of the LSD to the linear value of the MSD’s. –26db would be .01 divided by 4 or .0025. As you can see it’s also easy to estimate linear ratio values from –db’s.

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Contents Version 2.0, September Table of Contents Introduction Description of the HP3586 Page Selective Signal Connections Front Panel Description and Initial SET UP Page Page Setting and Measuring Frequency Page Power Level Measurements Using the Selective Mode Page Voltage Level Measurements Using the Selective Mode Measuring Carrier Signal Strength Tuning SSB Signals Using the Selective Mode Filter Band Width Carrier Offset Tuning a SSB Signal Using the NOISE/DEMODULATION Mode Measuring Audio Noise Using the Wideband Mode Measuring Impulse Noise Measuring Audio Harmonic Distortion Page Passive and Active Network Analysis Page Measuring a TRANSMITTER’S Spurious Emissions Page Selection of Measurement Modes and Other Considerations Page Page Appendix a Understanding the Decibel Ratio Measuring SystemNumber Ratio Power DB Ratio Page HP3586 Error Codes Appendix BSchematics for Useful HP3586 Accessories Appendix C
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